Discussion in 'Arizona Scene' started by singh, Apr 7, 2021.

  1. singh

    singh Active Member

    I wonder what the impact will be (if any) on participation of Scottsdale players with RSL doing ECNL/rl in Gilbert at least 50% of the time.

    one of the issues with such a large footprint in our city, to say the least!
    Last edited: Apr 23, 2021
  2. Desert Hound

    Desert Hound Well-Known Member

    Parents will drive.

    You would be amazed at how far some drive for practice. Flagstaff and Tucson come to mind for teammates of my DD.
  3. SoccerDadAZ

    SoccerDadAZ Active Member

    Travel distance to training and matches is not an issue for the majority of top-flight players.
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  4. tjinaz

    tjinaz Active Member

    Eh... that is no change.. they have been doing that for years.
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  5. GK Mom 06

    GK Mom 06 New Member

    I don’t think there will be a huge impact. They are already doing it now and many of the parents have worked out a carpool system (based off what I know from the 08s and 06s).
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  6. Sweeper

    Sweeper Active Member

    Agree, this year will have a lot of player movement based on chatter I hear. There might be as much movement as there was with the birth year change 5-6 years ago.
  7. Cjsmom

    Cjsmom New Member

    Question: RSL elite academy... is that a separate team from competitive? Is it better or worse then competitive? Trying to understand the progression of a player in RSL system. Southeast valley
  8. tjinaz

    tjinaz Active Member

    Its is below MLS and above competitive.
  9. andorra

    andorra New Member

    Given a choice between:

    • Arsenal ECRL vs RSL ECRL

    • Arsenal ECNL vs RSL ECNL

    • Being double rostered (ECRL/ECNL) Arsenal vs RSL

    What choice would one make for each bullet point?
  10. singh

    singh Active Member

    hoooo boy, now you've done it.....

    get me some popcorn
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  11. Desert Hound

    Desert Hound Well-Known Member

    Based on past history RSL rarely pulls kids up from the 2nd team to the top team.

    Now occasionally it happens for a game here and there and that is usually injury related. But if they are telling a kid that during the year we will play you up and down...that is likely false based on what they have done over the past few years.
  12. Desert Hound

    Desert Hound Well-Known Member

    Go where your kid will get playing time.
  13. andorra

    andorra New Member

    If kid is offered ECRL at one club and ECNL at another? Less playing time vs higher level team?
  14. Desert Hound

    Desert Hound Well-Known Member

    My first inclination is to look towards the ECNL team.

    Some ECNL coaches play their benches and give out good minutes. Others not so much.

    For example Shank when he had ECNL (he has ecRl) used to play the bench. He had a quick hook though.

    Tiffany at Royals? Doesn't play the bench as much.

    Cagle at Rising? Some subs don't see the field much.

    Brett at Arsenal? Plays the bench.

    Those are just a few examples.
  15. calmdown

    calmdown Member

    If your kid has the maturity, and is up for the challenge, I would say take ECNL. But know that there is work to be put in - and ask the coach what specifically should they work on over the summer. The ECRL teams are not that different to APL /SL teams - but the travel is fun. Being on an ECRL team can help get a move to a top team at a different club, but rarely a move up within the club.
  16. Desert Hound

    Desert Hound Well-Known Member

    Also if possible try to evaluate where your kid is.

    If the kid is #1-6 they are going to play all or a ton of minutes. And are safe year after year.
    #7-12. These kids generally get good minutes game in and game out. The lower portion can move between starter and sub off and on.
    13-18. These are your subs. You dont want to be 16-18. Those are the spots that get upgraded year in and year out. The number of who gets upgraded of course always depends on who they find to come in. But if you are in the last 6 spots your spot or playing time on the team can vary quite a bit.
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  17. Desert Hound

    Desert Hound Well-Known Member

    This is very true.
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  18. tjinaz

    tjinaz Active Member

    Another issue is roster size. Think RSL tops out at 18, Arsenal 20, not sure about Rising. But end of the day its about playing time. While there is value in practicing with top level players, game time is integral to getting better.
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  19. SteveNV73

    SteveNV73 Member

    But wait, I thought all these 2nd teams are the pathway to the top teams? Are you telling me that they can say that in the sales pitch and then not do it?!?!

    I would love to see actual data from each club to show how many players were moved up from 2nd team to the top team vs. how many players were moved in from other clubs to the top teams.

    If you are a club, your best sales pitch is come join our top team...change clubs to join our 2nd team doesn't have the same ring to it. The club gets an option to see if that player works out and adds some revenue along with it. At least year to year, they already have the 2nd team players and their revenue.
  20. Desert Hound

    Desert Hound Well-Known Member

    They just happens to be a path to top teams on other clubs ;)
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