Changes

Discussion in '2006' started by singh, May 13, 2022.

  1. singh

    singh Active Member

    I have heard that rising is not having a second team. So they have ECNL ecrl and a state league team (or elite 64)
    Are the other clubs losing teams as well?

    del sol is keeping a ga and DPL team but no other teams
     
  2. Desert Hound

    Desert Hound Well-Known Member

    del Sol doesnt really have any other teams as it stands now.

    Rising does have a 2nd team. It is ecRl. Their 3rd team is state.
     
  3. overtime

    overtime Member

    I have heard rising is either losing ecnl (girls) or being put on probation. what probation means, I don't know. anyone have any info on this?
     
  4. MessiFTW

    MessiFTW Active Member

    Probably get more responses to your question on Rising and Girls ECNL if you post it in the ECNL Forum. I would answer, but I have no clue. I have heard countless rumors about their ECNL program on the girls side. The one empirical thing is that it is by and large floundering...sad given the talent they originally started with a couple of years ago.
     
  5. overtime

    overtime Member

    My apologies, you are correct, I completely lost track that I was in a different forum. Maybe I'll post there and see if anyone knows of any changes to their program.
     
  6. GKdad

    GKdad Active Member

    Phoenix Premier (east Valley) will only have one team at U17 this year. I assume the west valley premier will be the same. Heading into DPL the east Valley team lost one player to DS GA and picked up a couple of girls formerly with CCV the team is nearly the same as last season. Will be interesting to see what there is at the west valley team once the regular season hits. Given the pres cup win and the berth in regionals their team is still intact but many of those girls were allegedly not going to continue either with that team or quitting club soccer.

    I am interested to see the 3 teams at Rising at this age group. Really more to the ECNL and and State level teams as ECRL being west valley based and already with an overflowing roster isn't competing for the same group of players.

    The former Humphreys and Colavita teams were both talented but seemed to struggle at opposite ends of the field. Colavita couldn't score but didn't give up a lot of goals. Humphreys seemed to score well and their keeper was solid but got hung out to dry quite often and lost a lot of goal filled affairs. Consolidating the talent of those two teams could make for a strong roster. DD said that she heard the ECNL team is largely unchanged from whatever the roster looked like at the end of last season.

    It feels like U17 is the final wave of dropoff. The commitment level seems to show itself strongly. These girls have reached driving age and are either dedicated to continue playing or just simply aren't. I see players who can now play further from home as transportation limitations are out of the way and they can now play where they want if a spot is available as opposed to what the best fit is with geographic limitations. For those whom driving has opened up other interests it seems that may drive the defection from the club side as most that I hear of quitting club soccer still intend to play high school soccer.
     
  7. Uber

    Uber New Member

    Not likely, they are doing better than Arsenal and significantly better than the Sharks. Sounds like competitors trying to muddy the water during tryouts. Some of their underperforming teams are getting injured players back and are playing better.
     
  8. singh

    singh Active Member

    yes, but before they had 5 teams, (Nl Rl, 1, 2 and 3) now they apparently have nothing lower that "1"
     
  9. I have heard the rumor too. I believe it has to do with sideline behavior, as opposed to results. I don't think they are losing ECNL though.
     
  10. overtime

    overtime Member

    I should have clarified, I heard it was due to multiple disciplinary issues over the last year or two not performance.
     
  11. Sweeper

    Sweeper Well-Known Member

    Are you talking about the 06 Rising teams here? My DD heard the 06 Rising ECNL team dropped one goalie to 07 (she was playing up), the other goalie went to another club, a key defender went to CCV, an impact forward tore her ACL this past week and midfielder on the team is out with a broken collarbone. 5 players leaving or hurt seems like a changed roster.
     
  12. Sweeper

    Sweeper Well-Known Member

    What happened to the girls on the 2 and 3 teams? Did they get moved up to the higher teams? Or moved to another age group?
     
  13. GKdad

    GKdad Active Member

    While on the topic of changes;

    Did your DD change clubs or teams within their club after this tryout cycle?

    If they did, why did your family decide to make that change?

    Did joining or leaving a specific league play into your decision?

    Quit the game altogether?

    I will start;

    DD moved to a different team within the same club. She chose to move for the environment and coaching. Letter league did not factor, would actually prefer they were not in a letter league.
     
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  14. GKdad

    GKdad Active Member

    DD (GK) was aware that CG left and went back to CCV but that TS (the 07) was staying with Rising 06 ECNL. Heard that EE who was an 06 playing up to 05 last year was taking CG's place. Sad to hear about the injured players.
     
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  15. singh

    singh Active Member

    no idea
    Im assuming some are "retiring"
     
  16. singh

    singh Active Member

    I thought they were set wth their two 07 (existing) keepers...both had the national team ID event invites and are by all accounts excellent.
     
  17. Sweeper

    Sweeper Well-Known Member

    There will be another wave of drop-off after high school season for the girls. Some will decide to not go back to club. Then another drop-off at U19 when it is a combined age group. Also parents think that their player has a car, they will now drive to a practice almost an hour away. That will backfire really quick, only a few kids will be willing to drive more than their practice time.
     
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  18. Sweeper

    Sweeper Well-Known Member

    Hopefully Rising finds a team for some of these players. Seems like they have the rosters spot available.
     
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  19. singh

    singh Active Member

    We did not change this year, but we did last year. We left our previous club, because we felt like my DD had "maxed out" with her coach, and that some things were said to her (by the coach) in an end of the year meeting which I felt were unfair and led me to believe that the following year would make soccer more stressful, than fun. She is having a lot of fun now which is important to me (I'm not driving all over the place if she hates it). we would have left a year earlier but due to the pandemic and a lack of tryouts, it was difficult. The letter league initially was attractive but in retrospect, not as important...although we are not in ECNL, and my opinion could be different, if that was the case.
     
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  20. GK Mom 06

    GK Mom 06 New Member

    We did not change either. We like where we are in the "letter leagues." My daughter plays multiple sports (one very competitively besides soccer, others just for fun) so staying in ecRL rather than ecNL was much more attractive. Also her happiness is very important to me and she is always looking out for her mental health which makes ecRL more appealing to her.

    As for Rising ecNL, we are losing a couple of our players to that team. Huge loss to us, huge gain for Rising. They are also getting a new GK from out of state (or so I hear) to replace CG.
     
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