AZ Girls GA 2020-2021

Discussion in 'Development Academy' started by Sweeper, Jul 16, 2020.

  1. They are allowed to play but some ages are choosing to not play high school and play in the GA showcase or tournaments. I’ve heard it from both clubs.
     
  2. Digital5

    Digital5 Active Member

    There are SCDS girls playing HS.
     
  3. singh

    singh Active Member

    for my knowledge, how does an 03 play on an 05 team?
     
  4. Just4Kix

    Just4Kix Member

    It was a scrimmage
     
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  5. tjinaz

    tjinaz Active Member

    Looking at the standings it appears RSL will pretty much run away with nearly every age group. You don't often see scores like that at GA (DA) level.
     
  6. Digital5

    Digital5 Active Member

    Certainly "running" away with it at the moment at U13 and U17. Top two at U14(1st), U16(tied for 1st) and U19(2nd). Playing catch up at U15(3rd).

    With that said, CA teams teams are not firing on all cylinders and it's unknown whether some clubs are even playing their top teams in GA. Legends for sure hasn't. Beach and West Coast FC sometimes and maybe.

    Good on them though, they are playing much improved and showing depth across age groups.
     
  7. Desert Hound

    Desert Hound Well-Known Member

    It is only a couple of games. But it does highlight the issue I have mentioned before.

    Royals are rolling through the GA SW division.

    So U13 they are 7 wins and 1 tie. 21 goals scored vs 4 given up.
    In the Surf Cup Arsenal FC ECNL (not AZ) beat them 4-1.

    So U14 they are 8 wins and a tie. 36 goals scores vs 7 given up
    In Surf Cup Surf ECNL beat them 3-0.

    The reason the Royals look so good this year is that the DA teams above them last year either folded (1 club), moved to ECNL, or have their best teams in ECRL.

    Remember across all age groups last year Royals had a losing record and gave up a lot more goals vs what they scored. They didn't suddenly get better this year. They are simply not playing the same level of competition this year.
     
  8. overtime

    overtime New Member

    I'd agree they aren't playing the same level of comp in regards to the clubs that left to go ecrl but they do appear to look better. I saw most of the 07 surf ecnl/royals 07 game. It was a really competitive game (surf 07 is an amazing team to watch) and I believe the score was input wrong, pretty sure it was 2-1 surf. the other game I saw some of was the prfc colavita/arsenal ecnl 07. prfc won however they had a handful of 07 encl girls playing most minutes of the game, I believe that is what put them over the top against arsenal 07. idk just my two cents. lots of good games taking place during surf cup the past 3 days!
     
  9. Digital5

    Digital5 Active Member

    I certainly agree that they aren't playing more teams like Surf in the GA SW conference. Surf is arguably on a higher level than any team within their own league and will wreak havoc (as will the other former DA clubs). With that said, both sets of Royals young ladies are playing very well right now. The 07G in particular are a good team, better than the Arsenal, PRFC, and Del Sol 07G teams.

    At U14, Arsenal should be concerned. They were unable to beat a state league team, an ECRL team, but managed to beat the Top Hat team. Although, since I didn't watch any of these games, I have no idea how the games were played, if teams had complete rosters, etc.

    The Royals will be just fine and will continue to attract players/parents from other clubs. Putting aside the ECNL/GA argument, The Royals have managed to recruit well and are a much better club across the board on the girls side. I'm not a Royals parent but know quite a few. They all seem happy with their new environment. Maybe somebody can pipe in and say the opposite, but that's what I've been told.
     
  10. Desert Hound

    Desert Hound Well-Known Member

    I know more than a few Royals parents. The general consensus seems to be the following:

    - They like the club
    - They like the coaches
    - The are concerned about the quality of the opponents they play. This is the big one if this stays true over the course of the next couple of seasons.

    Arsenal U14? Not a lot of scores to go by. I suspect you are right that they have a long way to go though.

    If they ever post all the ECNL scores and they get more games in this year I would say most Arsenal age groups finish middle of the pack to lower.

    I wonder if/how many more GA/ECNL league games AZ teams get in this year with the way Cal runs things right now.
     
  11. Desert Hound

    Desert Hound Well-Known Member

    I think this gets back to what many have been saying.

    The reason they look so good is that they are playing such weak teams.

    Don't get me wrong though. I think they have a lot of talent on the various teams at the club. My personal opinion is that the 04 team is the strongest of the bunch.
     
  12. tjinaz

    tjinaz Active Member

    I think the Arsenal U14 team may be in trouble but the U13 team played very well. Other than the RSL GA team then entire 07G age group is tight. The RSL DPL team really struggled in Surf Cup. A couple of their regular defenders are injured and couldn't play and the subs they brought in weren't the same quality. What you like to see, a deep age group with a lot of good teams. On a good day the CCV or Premier teams could beat any of them.

    Next years tryouts will be very interesting. With limited playing time and the possibility of more travel restrictions the leagues that actually play meaningful games will be the winners. What is the point of having the patch if all you ever do is practice. We may actually see a return of elite players to APL. So long as they are playing everyone wins.
     
  13. Digital5

    Digital5 Active Member

    Based on CA's trajectory, we may see more play between them. I sure hope so. Maybe this time around DS will come out to play. They were reluctant in the fall, for reasons of their own. Their is talk of friendlies 2nd weekend of JAN with ECNL teams from Utah. Maybe their will be an opportunity there for more AZ GA/ECNL teams to play one another. Wait and see I guess.
     
  14. Desert Hound

    Desert Hound Well-Known Member

    I would guess that if travel is limited again in the fall you will see the following:

    - The 4 clubs will be playing games against each other.
    - They will play a lot more of the local tournaments
    - And they will like early on this year, play whatever clubs want to come out to AZ to scrimmage.

    I don't think you will see much movement back into APL through.
     
  15. tjinaz

    tjinaz Active Member

    You are probably right. Think the ECNL and GA teams will be un effected but not sure about DPL/ECRL. Paying a lot of money to be on a second team with a "promise" of occasionally playing on the first may not have the shine next year.
     
  16. Cali

    Cali Member

  17. Sweeper

    Sweeper Active Member

    RSL, Beach FC and Legends will be completely out of GA and "All In" for ECNL. GA Southwest conference is down 3 teams for next year.
     
  18. Desert Hound

    Desert Hound Well-Known Member

    del Sol has a long term problem at this point. They have already been bleeding a bit due to player movement over to Rising and Royals, and the fact that new kids coming in had a variety of choices.

    At this point out of the big 4, they are last on the girls side.

    If you have a kid who is good, your first choice is going to be ECNL and one of the 3 ECNL clubs.

    del Sol will not get the top girls like the used to when they had ECNL along with Sereno or when they were the only DA club in town.

    Their offer on the girls side is a 2nd tier national league platform.

    In the short term the top talent (coming in...I am not talking about kids jumping) will go to Royals and Rising and then to Arsenal. Long term I think Arsenal is in a very good spot based on their location and the fact that the growth of the city is in that direction.

    Expect to see the quality of del Sol girls teams suffer in comparison to the ECNL clubs.

    del Sol's saving grace? They have what appears to be the top platform on the boys side. They are going to have to hustle though since Rising/RSL has that platform and boys ECNL as well. Either way they will pull in top boys as long as the MLS Next stays alive and grows.
     
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  19. Sweeper

    Sweeper Active Member

    We know new players will not gravitate to del Sol. But what will existing del Sol players do? I think the 04’s will stay at del Sol. But will the 05’s, 06’s, and 07’s leave to ECNL clubs?
     
  20. Desert Hound

    Desert Hound Well-Known Member

    I doubt many 04s will move. Now some with 2 yrs left that are in 04 might. As you get to the younger ages and they have more years, some will definitely think about moving.

    The reason? Ask yourself this simple question.

    As it stands right now, which is the proven platform? Which is the place you would go if you were just entering the age groups?

    And you know what the answer will be for many.
     

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