AZ Boys DA 2019-2020

Discussion in 'Development Academy' started by Sweeper, Jul 22, 2019.

  1. whatithink

    whatithink Active Member

    First off they will try to get on the RSL team, and they will take the best or whatever is better than what they have. Barca may be an option and RSL Utah offer residential spots after inviting kids for a week to tryout AFAIK.

    After that, there's ECNL and then if they don't make any of those Del Sol APL I guess.

    You would think they will make DA or ECNL, which would push existing players out of those programs.
     
  2. al66

    al66 Active Member

    In the attempt to tie down players,
    RSL & SC DEL SOL are stating to parents in offer letters, their boy teams are going to be playing MLS EILTE COMPETITION next season.
    Seems a bit premature and confident, since MLS is still in the process of creating the league and figuring out all the details themselves. So should parentstrust these clubs and sign or wait to getthe truth?
     
  3. SoccerDadAZ

    SoccerDadAZ Active Member

    Since RSL-AZ was RSL's DA club, one would think that their teams would be playing in the MLS Youth League. Re: SC Del Sol, it remains to be seen but the MLS Technical Director of Youth Development, Fred Lipka, stated that "every single non-MLS club which played in the DA is you will have a place to play". I would think that this MLS Youth League will follow down the path that the USSDA was planning to take with the DA League and create a tiering system for the clubs.

    Link to article with Fred Lipka: https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2020...ent-fred-lipka-joins-extratime-discuss-future
     
  4. whatithink

    whatithink Active Member

    RSL run their U15+ DA age groups out of Utah. I expect they will continue with that, given that they spent $15M on building their academy there. RSL-AZ had U13 & 14, expanded to U15 for next season.

    I would think there will be two tiers, as you say, and that RSL-AZ will be in the second tier with Del Sol. It will be interesting to see if the non-MLS tier will have older groups as a the funnel system meant that a lot of DA clubs only had the younger age groups. MLS want the top tier to be quality, meaning (to them) their DA teams and maybe some specific invite only ones. They ran that at the oldest this year and teams that were as good as the "local" MLS teams couldn't get in (Crossfire for example).
     
  5. SoccerDadAZ

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    Now that the MLS is running the league, the tiering system will probably be based on an individual team's strength and not by club. For example, the SoCal club that had top teams in most age groups, TFA, is non-MLS but the MLS will want TFA's teams to play in their top tier. RSL-AZ will probably get some of their top teams to play in the MLS Youth League's top tier based on their individual team's strength. RSL-AZ's 06 and 07 DA teams were at the top of their respective age group standings. RSL-AZ's club players will have multiple paths of development: MLS, ECNL, APL, etc. SC Del Sol will probably try to do the same thing for all their boys' age groups, focusing on MLS and the USYS entities, Desert Conference and National League. Their 07 DA team was very strong this past year and should have a great chance at playing in the MLS' top tier in their age group. This is assuming Del Sol and its teams will be given membership in the MLS Youth League.
     
  6. al66

    al66 Active Member

    Phoenix Rising was accepted to the DA and was set to add the ‘07 & ‘08 age groups this upcoming season. So what happens now? Are they going to play in the MLS league too? They launched their PROFESSIONAL ACADEMY and plan to move forward as fully funded for its chosen players.
     
  7. whatithink

    whatithink Active Member

    I don't think so. I think it will be based on this year's Red & Blue conferences for the U18/19s. The MLS teams look to take the top players into their academies at U15, hence weakening those teams and creating separation.

    So I'd predict DA1 being the MLS teams, maybe some USL teams, like Rising, or some exceptional clubs (not TFA who only went to U15 btw - and I do mean exceptional as Crossfire couldn't get into Blue this year). This is about the kids they think could go pro - there's very few, if any, of those on any team. RSL for example invite "top" kids to tryout for their U15s, they don't all make it.

    The DA2 will probably be a wider set of teams than now at the olders and a good fit for the top level. I'd think both Del Sol & RSL-AZ will be in this pool, with it starting at U13 (as DA, like now) before splitting at U15 (where the funnel narrows now).
     
  8. whatithink

    whatithink Active Member

    I'd say probably yes and they are probably looking to add their older teams too, now that US Soccer isn't making the rules.
     
  9. SoccerDadAZ

    SoccerDadAZ Active Member

    The USL clubs have 2 components to their academy model: 1) a USL A team, with each roster about 18-23 players, ranging from U15-19 and 2) their youth academy teams. If the USL A teams will play in the MLS Youth League, they will probably play in the U19 age group in addition to the USL A league. Since a number of the USL clubs were members of the USSDA, they will probably apply for membership into the MLS Youth League for its top non-USL A teams.
     
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  10. SoccerDadAZ

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    I think you mixed up the DA's top division for U18/19 which was Red, not Blue. Crossfire was in the West-Blue division this past year but a few non-MLS teams were deemed good enough to play in the West-Red Division, including FC Golden State (which was leading the West Red division), DeAnza Force, San Diego Surf, and Pats. We will see soon enough how the MLS Youth League will align the clubs and its teams. But if the MLS' goal is to maintain a high level of play for its MLS academy teams, the tiering system will place teams on individual team strength and its affiliation with the MLS teams themselves, IMO.
     
  11. SoccerDadAZ

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  12. al66

    al66 Active Member

    3EEBA46C-4186-4864-ABD5-8B85B28234CE.jpeg BOYS ECNL CONFERENCEs SO FARFOR 2020, MORE ADDITIONS TO COME I’M SURE. THERE’S ALOT OF DA CLUB JOINING.
     
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  13. al66

    al66 Active Member

    San Diego SC, another DA club joins ECNL
     
  14. just4kicks

    just4kicks Member

    Anyone know what league del Sol boys intend to play in? Their olders played in State Leagues last year. while they had 2 DA teams at younger ages. In their coaching announcement, they identify the top team as Academy?
     
  15. SoccerDadAZ

    SoccerDadAZ Active Member

    From a league perspective, their intent is to play in the MLS Youth League along with their current spots in the USYS Conferences and APL.
     
  16. al66

    al66 Active Member

    Only Leagues DEL SOL can confirm is USYS Conferences and APL & ASL, although they are stating in commit letters to players and parents they will be playing in the MLS ELITE COMPETITION. Weird to me since the MLS is in the process of creating the league and hasn’t even decided how they will structure it, let alone who will play in it besides MLS Pro Academies.
     
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  17. SoccerDadAZ

    SoccerDadAZ Active Member

    I don't think their commit letters stated that.
     
  18. al66

    al66 Active Member

    I HAVE A COPY OF ONE, MY SONS
     
  19. azsoccermom

    azsoccermom Member

    LA Roca is now confirmed as Boys ECNL.

    Outside of the MLS sides, there won't be much left for the Southwest in any non MLS club DA set-up as far as top clubs go.
     
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  20. al66

    al66 Active Member

    It will be the left overs, teams that ECNL didn't accept. Looks like those teams will have to make their own league.
     

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