2009 boys thread

Discussion in 'Arizona Scene' started by mbappe, Apr 28, 2021.

  1. 2009boydad

    2009boydad New Member

    The cream will rise to the top, as they say.... only time will tell. I'd pick the best available coach (in your opinion) over best available league (also an opinion). YSR is the most reliable ranking system I've seen to date and would love to know of a better one than just your opinion if you've got one...
     
  2. 2009boydad

    2009boydad New Member

    How's tryouts going for all the 2009 boys? In your opinion, list the top 7 teams in the valley going into this year, including MLS, ECNL, EA, or state league teams.

    I'll go first:
    1. RSL MLS
    2. Rising MLS
    3. Rising ECNL
    4. Del Sol MLS
    5. CCV
    6. RSL EA North
    7. Playmakers FA

    I know we can't be the only ones having a tough time making a decision...
     
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  3. Desert Hound

    Desert Hound Well-Known Member

    del Sol MLS will be above Rising ECNL.

    And then after Rising ECNL you have Arsenal ECNL.

    Then the rest.
     
  4. 2009boydad

    2009boydad New Member

    Where is Del Sol getting there talent? It seemed to me as they were several pieces short. I haven't made it out to their tryouts yet, but I was at the Rising ones and they had several kids from different clubs (calcio, playmakers, arsenal) to name a few.

    I agree with Arsenal ECNL, but had heard they had lost their tag as well and figured they would scatter to rising, RSL south.... If they indeed didn't, then yes, I agree.
     
  5. Desert Hound

    Desert Hound Well-Known Member

    Color me skeptical that Arsenal lost boys ECNL.

    In terms of MLS Next and del Sol?

    The simple fact that they are 1 of 3 options here in the Valley means they will get lots of people taking a look. And if your kid is good enough or you THINK your kid is good enough means that people hit their ID sessions.

    Do I have personal knowledge of how many went to their ID sessions? No. I simply base it on the fact they they are offering the top league available on the boys side. Boys / parents will look their first (along with the other 2 clubs) before considering ECNL. EA is a distant 3rd option.
     
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  6. Funyuns

    Funyuns Member

    Probably too early to call Rising ECNL and Del Sol MLS. There was a good showing at the Rising 09 ECNL tryouts but heard a handful of them were Rising MLS bound. Also aware of couple of potential starters declining their ECNL offer for personal reasons.
    I would put 09 RSL EA North last. They will at best be middle of the pack APL team. I know a lot of quality players that declined 08s and 09s once the parents learned that the league will play lowly “Desert” teams and not CA.
     
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  7. Desert Hound

    Desert Hound Well-Known Member

    Right now EA would have to be the 3rd choice. You would be silly to accept an EA spot over ECNL. And all things being equal silly to take ECNL over MLS Next.
     
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  8. Funyuns

    Funyuns Member

    You are far too kind, I wouldn’t even give North EA 3rd choice. Think better off with Playmakers, CCV or Meadows than North EA. Those teams will have better quality than North EA.
     
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  9. Ruffled feathers

    Ruffled feathers New Member

    I agree, I’d rank playmaker in the top 4 at least.
     
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  10. Aspen1369

    Aspen1369 Member

    1) RSL MLS
    2)Phoenix Rising MLS
    3) Del Sol MLS
    4) Phoenix Rising ECNL
    5) Arsenal ECNL
    6) RSL EA
    7) playmaker academy
    8) Meadows
    9) CCV
    10) the rest...
     
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  11. Rabona Goals

    Rabona Goals New Member

    RSL MLS and Rising MLS will go back and forth. Hernandez got smoked by the RSL team in 9v9 last year but when they went 11v11 Hernandez won. I would assume there are a few changes, but I'd also assume a number of the same players remain in the club so there is a case to be made to give Rising the nod.
     
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  12. Funyuns

    Funyuns Member

    RSL MLS picked up the stronger 09s by adding from West (Tuzos) and RSL South. From what I’ve seen so far, a lot of Hernandez hasn’t even made ECNL yet. Though that might change with all the acceptance/declines of offers.
     
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  13. mbappe

    mbappe Active Member

    Everyone so far is in agreement RSL MLS '09 and Rising MLS '09 will be the top two teams with RSL having the advantage as they are pulling from teams that finished 1st, 2nd, and 3rd at State Cup. Wouldn't count Andy Chapman at Rising out though as he has been known to pull some studs from other clubs during the Summer and find those out of state transfers moving in town. Just like the battles between RSL MLS 08 and Rising MLS 08, of which Rising finished with the better head to head record, the 2009's will certainly be entertaining to watch as well.
     
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  14. Messi#1fan

    Messi#1fan New Member


    When did Phoenix Rising beat RSL?
     
  15. mbappe

    mbappe Active Member

    Looking at YSR it doesn't appear Rising Hernandez 09 beat RSL Espinoza 09 this year, couple of ties and losses. Both teams will look different next season and going to the big field changes everything as we all know. Will be some fun games to watch. Someone said CCV kept all of their starters and even picked up Espinoza kids that didn't make MLS... They just might give Rising MLS 09 and RSL MLS 09 a run for their money if they meet up in a tournament. Del Sol MLS 09 maybe 4th or 5th best team in the state now heard they lost starters to Rising.
     
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  16. Rabona Goals

    Rabona Goals New Member

    My mistake. It was a 1-1 draw.
     
  17. Aspen1369

    Aspen1369 Member

    Del Sol and Rising Hernandez were close in quality this past season. I would give the nod to Rising for size and Del Sol on technical ability. It’s yet to be determined who will most benefit from the player movement between these two clubs.

    It’s highly unlikely any of the three MLS next affiliated clubs lose to any Non-MLS clubs from Arizona. Maybe once or twice next season tops. On average not more than a couple goals should separate the three MLS teams. Subsidizing the player’s training fees is too great of an offer to pass. All of the tryouts were heavily attended .
     

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