MLS league

Discussion in 'Arizona Scene' started by azsoccermom, May 13, 2020.

  1. SoccerDadAZ

    SoccerDadAZ Active Member


    With 26 MLS clubs, only the top 500 players at each age group (theoretically) across the entire U.S. will be playing for MLS academies. Plenty of excellent talent below that number. Even though the non-MLS club teams may not play against the MLS academies all the time, they will be playing in the same showcases/events and will have the opportunity to be seen by the college and pro coaches/scouts attending those showcases/events. MLS academies are constantly looking for talent and having the teams of non-MLS clubs in close proximity will provide them a convenient pool of talent to assess and evaluate. The talent on the teams of non-MLS clubs playing in the MLS Youth League will be on par with the talent of the top teams of Boys ECNL clubs.
     
  2. FutbolFan

    FutbolFan New Member

    I think the smart money for 2005 and older migrates to ECNL since there is no DA/MLS in those older age groups in AZ outside of Barca on the boys' side..

    ECNL is the top boys' league in AZ right now in the older age groups. MLS may one day change that but not today. Today it's ECNL.

    And RSL and Rising are in a unique position where they both could benefit from having ECNL and MLS/USL in the future as well on the boys' side. Maybe even Tucson too. Not so much for Arsenal.
     
  3. tjinaz

    tjinaz Active Member

    Think you are dead on with this. MLS will likely be the top league soon and they have that age gap. Until then ECNL will be the best.
     
  4. Digital5

    Digital5 Member

    MLS should close the gap, especially if they fund they way they say they are going to fund. For right now, the best players who can pay are in ECNL. It's not a ding, it's just youth sports today. I know there are scholarships, etc, and that's a good thing. Hopefully MLS levels the field. Doesn't mean that ECNL will be a bad league, just means the state should be able to field the very best boys talent that it can, without barriers. For those that will jump in with PRFC and the USL partnership - that's a very promising program and they are doing great things. There are a few others in line that are going in that direction (FC Arizona, etc). PRFC is certainly sitting in the drivers seat for now.
     
  5. Azsoccerfann

    Azsoccerfann New Member

    I don't know if this is a sign or a smoke screen from the club but I noticed this on SC Del Sol page. I have been hearing from parents from the club that they are waiting for confirmation from the club but it looks like it is all set and done..
     

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  6. Azsoccerfann

    Azsoccerfann New Member

    Also looks like Phoenix Rising will have U13-U19 As well as SC del Sol.
     

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  7. SoccerDadAZ

    SoccerDadAZ Active Member

    The teams for the AZ MLS Elite League clubs (Barca, Del Sol, PRFC, RSL AZ) are still not finalized. The PRFC Professional Academy is a player development model that is independent of the MLS Elite Platform. Teams may or may not play in the MLS Elite Platform.
     
  8. tjinaz

    tjinaz Active Member

    Will those be the top teams from those clubs?
     
  9. AZsoccefan

    AZsoccefan Member

    From PRFC, most of their top team is playing ECNL. I think the PRFC MLS Elite was mostly scouted externally. Not sure if either has a full team yet.
     
  10. FutbolFan

    FutbolFan New Member

    What age groups are you talking about?
     
  11. AZsoccefan

    AZsoccefan Member

    U13 and U14. I'm not aware of any PRFC MLS Elite teams older than that.

    There could be but I know that ID sessions were only offered for those two age groups. That was when it was for DA back in Jan/Feb. Things could be different now with the DA collapse and Covid. Although I think they offered most of the same kids for MLS that they did for DA.
     
  12. mbappe

    mbappe Member


    My friend's kid is on the U13 (2008) PRFC Pro Academy team. He said all 15 kids were external, a mix of Del Sol, CCV, Arsenal, RSL, etc... According to him their U13 ECNL team is also at 14 kids or almost full. The PRFC West Valley 08 team is loaded as well and will be playing APL.
     
  13. AZsoccefan

    AZsoccefan Member

    The West Valley team came over from Calcio (Calcio Black 2008) and they were #1 in AZ on gotsoccer most of the year. They are very very good. The second team at West Valley (aka Glendale) is also good.
     
  14. mbappe

    mbappe Member

    Correct. There's a new 3rd 2008 boys team at PRFC West Valley as well. The Tuzos B team called Tuzos Blue came over, same coach and most of the players. That team is also solid, YSR rank is #21. Phoenix Rising will end up with 8-9 boys teams for U13 (2008) in the Phoenix Metro area, 3 will end up Top 10 and 3 more will be Top 20-25.
     
  15. AZsoccefan

    AZsoccefan Member

    I've seem the Phoenix Rising North Valley (from Anthem) team play and they are really good too. They beat Angeles to win the top division of open league and will be competing in ASL this fall.
     
  16. mbappe

    mbappe Member

    Yep I had that team as a Top 11-20 above in the '08 age group.
     
  17. SoccerDadAZ

    SoccerDadAZ Active Member

    The first teams from those clubs will play in the MLS Elite League IF the club's team is given a spot in the age group. 1) MLS, 2) ECNL Southwest or USYS National League/Desert Conference, 3) APL
     
  18. soccerguy

    soccerguy New Member

    MLS wont start until 2021. USYS is part of this and there will 300 clubs in this next year. AZ clubs have no idea what is going on. MLS clubs have no idea what is going on. These clubs are lying or acting like they know something so kids don't leave. Noone needs this BS.
     
  19. PJP

    PJP New Member

    Not the first time I’ve heard start date 2021 but it’s always been on forums. No official word from MLS though. USL on the other hand has gone on record stating they would like their Academy season to coincide with the professional season. Are you just assuming the same for MLS? For the record, I have a child in the MLS Elite Academy and it’s been crickets on the start date. That said, the club’s stance has always been never to respond to rumors.

    I’m good either way as my child is getting excellent training and I’m certain that during the fall there will be friendlies and tournaments (in the event the season starts in 2021).
     
  20. tjinaz

    tjinaz Active Member

    Doesn't this violate the ECNL "all in" policy? So ECNL is going to drop Rising and RSL arguably the top two clubs in AZ? Or at least that is the threat.
     

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