DPL Season 2018-2019

Discussion in 'Development Academy' started by Desert Hound, Aug 27, 2018.

  1. Desert Hound

    Desert Hound Active Member

    I think it depends on the age group as it relates to college coaches. I was watching a DA college ID session and saw few if any coaches watching anything 04 DA or younger.

    And yes college coaches are going to be LOTS more interested in DA vs DPL. For DPL college stuff realistically you are looking at small D1 type schools and D2 and D3 mainly. You will see more interest at showcases once they hit u16, then definitely u17.

    And there has been some movement between DPL and DA. But be realistic, the vast vast majority of kids on DPL will never make a DA team. The top 1-2 on any DPL team are the ones that have the possibility of moving up. And it is just that, a possibility. Go look at the various rosters of del Sol and RSL. In terms of status you will see kids listed as PT (part time). That means they are playing on another team. Could be the club itself of some outside club. Even if it shows ZERO games played click on the kids name. You may find they played in a different age group. When you click on their name you will see games started and games played. If you have time you can go through the various games and pull up their exact minutes.
     
    Soccer Dad likes this.
  2. loco about soccer

    loco about soccer New Member

    Thank you for your responses. Good to know. We are not sure if the DPL level works for our family in terms of pricing, training, exposure ratio. We are open-minded to all opportunities. Love the ideas you shared.
     
  3. Driveandpay

    Driveandpay Member

    Just my two cents, I would do ECNL over DPL any day. ECNL is a better platform and has much more exposure than DPL.
     
  4. Desert Hound

    Desert Hound Active Member

    I would certainly agree that ECNL offers more exposure vs DPL.

    In our area that means basically the 2 AZ ECNL showcases. Yes there are other ECNL showcases around the country. It is essentially those 2 showcases that provide the extra exposure as it relates to AZ teams and ECNL.

    Outside of that if you look at the other main showcases teams/clubs go to in our region you will find both DPL and ECNL at Silverlakes, Players and Legends. Those are pretty good showcases overall.

    In terms of quality in the SW area the better DPL teams I believe can hold their own vs the better ECNL teams.

    The bottom teams in ECNL and DPL (I refer only to the SW division of ECNL) are pretty mediocre.

    The top clubs overall in ECNL (our area) tend to be Blues, Slammers FC, LAFC Slammers, Heat and Strikers
    In DPL the top clubs tend to be Legends, Beach, SD Surf, OC Surf. Both of the Surf teams were ECNL last year.
     
  5. Driveandpay

    Driveandpay Member

    ECNL is a better platform and is taken more seriously. Across the country many top players choose to play ECNL over DA. Some don't want the constraints of DA, for others there are no DA's in their area. As long as some of the top talent around the country is at ECNL, scouts will go watch. DPL is not top talent. College coaches will go watch ECNL any day over DPL. Period.
     
    GKeeper and Soccer Dad like this.
  6. Desert Hound

    Desert Hound Active Member

    And again I agree, ECNL is a better platform vs DPL. There certainly is more exposure. And clearly some players and even clubs are choosing ECNL over DA, in most cases due to the HS issue.

    What I was pointing out though is in the SW the talent between DPL and ECNL is pretty close. Some very good teams, some average, and some terrible teams.
     
  7. THE_INTERSECT

    THE_INTERSECT Member

    You all make good points. But I want to throw out another point of view. There are some very good players on bad ECNL teams. Many factors go into what makes a team bad. Depth is one of them. I've seen both ECNL and DA teams that struggle with depth at times, thus when they sub, the game is impacted. More so in the ECNL as it's substitution rules are slightly better than the DA.

    But over they years of watch both ECNL and DA girls soccer I seen games go the wrong way due to subs aka depth.

    There are also some very good players here and there that don't play at an elite level for any number of reason. Two girls I know are going to play DI soccer together and they never played in the DA, ECNL or DPL. But they worked hard and got noticed from playing in events that scouts happed to be at and going to College School Specific ID Camps.
     
    Desert Hound and Soccer Dad like this.
  8. Desert Hound

    Desert Hound Active Member

    I think the sub rules in ECNL are a lot better vs DA. Much more flexibility
     
    Soccer Dad likes this.
  9. Soccer Dad

    Soccer Dad Active Member

    I was surprised that Del Sol DPL teams only won 1 state title (02)
     
  10. Sweeper

    Sweeper Active Member

    The 02 Del Sol DPL team is the only decent DPL team that plays in state cup. I think this 02 team has lost in the finals in years past but finally won the state cup tournament. For the younger ages of DPL, I think the teams are too watered down and will struggle to win a state championship.
     
    Soccer Dad likes this.
  11. AZSoccer

    AZSoccer Active Member

    It will be interesting to see how well the girls that were not part of ECNL or DA play when they get to D1 level and faced with better competition both on their team and in league play. Advantage for the girls that has played in both ECNL & DA will be the same level of competition they are use to playing week in and out.
     
  12. Soccer Dad

    Soccer Dad Active Member

    Most those girls going D1 from non DA and ECNL teams have been playing against top teams including ECNL in Showcases for many years and showed well enough for the coaches to think they can play at that level. Those non DA/ECNL players have had to work harder to get noticed and will probably bring that chip on their shoulder with them. let me add Many players from DA, ECNL, and any other league will have players who wont make it all 4 years of college for one reason or another.
     
  13. AZSoccer

    AZSoccer Active Member


    There is a big difference in playing ECNL teams few games a year in showcase tournaments and actually playing them weeks in and out. My point is the many (not all) players coming out of DA & ECNL leagues will have easier transition since they’ve already played against many of the girls in D1 since over 90% of D1 players come from these two leagues.
     
  14. azsoccerdadofDD

    azsoccerdadofDD New Member

    Isn’t DPL just a rebranding of “team 1”? Just another club gimmick to keep kids from jumping if they don’t make DA.

    Did SCDS 06 girls DPL team form?
     
  15. aginaz

    aginaz Active Member

    DPL is slightly more than that. It is "DA Lite". Less competitive/more money!

    LOL. At RSL anyway.

    The teams DO travel together when possible and play in similar events so you do have the added travel costs and less subsidized so...

    It's still supposed to be at a higher level than APL.
     
  16. Soccer Dad

    Soccer Dad Active Member

    It's still supposed to be at a higher level than APL.[/QUOTE]
    After state cup results its safe to say its not higher level then APL
     
  17. yadayada

    yadayada Member

    After state cup results its safe to say its not higher level then APL[/QUOTE]
    Its about the level of competition in the DPL league and the teams they play. The winners of State Cup would not do well against the top teams in the DPL league.

    Another piece you're missing is that due to development and injury some of the DPL teams have pulled up players to DA.
    Anyways, with 2 DA and 2 ECNL teams at each age level, State Cup is no longer relevant unless it's a U13 team.
     
    Desert Hound likes this.
  18. Desert Hound

    Desert Hound Active Member

    Its about the level of competition in the DPL league and the teams they play. The winners of State Cup would not do well against the top teams in the DPL league.

    Another piece you're missing is that due to development and injury some of the DPL teams have pulled up players to DA.
    Anyways, with 2 DA and 2 ECNL teams at each age level, State Cup is no longer relevant unless it's a U13 team.[/QUOTE]
    DPL will start to pull in the better players not in ECNL or DA over time.

    Both del Sol and RSL have used DPL players as Part Time DA players throughout the year, and a few girls got permanent status. That right there is a draw.

    And with DPL you are playing generally better So Cal teams vs the APL competition.
    More importantly DPL girls are starting to get more exposure with college coaches due to combined DA/DPL practices, college ID events, and next year combined DP/DPL showcase. Further DPL makes sure their teams geti into some of the better college showcases such as Silverlakes in November, Players in March, and Legends in May/June.

    DA and ECNL are #1 and #2 options for college exposure.
    Playing DPL and getting a combo of playing So Cal and playing APL plus getting more exposure vs just being in AZ is preferable to being in just APL or State leagues.
     
  19. Soccer Dad

    Soccer Dad Active Member

    Its about the level of competition in the DPL league and the teams they play. The winners of State Cup would not do well against the top teams in the DPL league.

    Another piece you're missing is that due to development and injury some of the DPL teams have pulled up players to DA.
    Anyways, with 2 DA and 2 ECNL teams at each age level, State Cup is no longer relevant unless it's a U13 team.[/QUOTE]
    Sc del DPL won 1 state cup. If del sol was getting better playing other DPL teams shouldn’t they have cleaned up in state cup. I agree state cup doesn’t mean what it use to but if DPL is going to sell it as a better product you better be cleaning up at state cup with the top 4 teams in each group not playing state cup
     
  20. THE_INTERSECT

    THE_INTERSECT Member

    Sc del DPL won 1 state cup. If del sol was getting better playing other DPL teams shouldn’t they have cleaned up in state cup. I agree state cup doesn’t mean what it use to but if DPL is going to sell it as a better product you better be cleaning up at state cup with the top 4 teams in each group not playing state cup[/QUOTE]
    Rumor on the street is SCDS is pulling there DPL teams out of State League to only play a DPL schedule. We will have to wait and see if this is true or not.
     

Users Who Have Read This Thread (Total: 0)

Share This Page