CUSD Winter Sports - Postponed

Discussion in 'Arizona Scene' started by GKeeper, Nov 5, 2020.

  1. THE_INTERSECT

    THE_INTERSECT Member

    From AZ Central Article: "In a news release, the AIA said that "no fans will be permitted until metrics are appropriate."

    https://www.azcentral.com/story/spo...s-competition-delayed-until-jan-5/6342996002/

    I also heard there is another meeting Tuesday Morning for Coaches and we should be getting clarification on a few things.
     
  2. Tiki-Taka-Freak

    Tiki-Taka-Freak Active Member

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    For the parents and coaches that are forcing their child to wear masks while playing on the pitch, you are putting much greater harm on that child's health than any corona virus ever could.

    If the ASA isn't going to make that clear, you will see players passing out, vomiting, and they may even go into cardiac arrest all for a stupid policy of scaring people into wearing something that does not prevent the transmission of any diseases. It is one thing to wear a slave muzzle while spectating, it is another while playing a very physically demanding sport such as soccer. Fear will make people do stupid things. Do not submit to THEIR (lamestream media, politicians, government agencies, etc.) FEAR MONGERING.
     
  3. Digital5

    Digital5 Active Member

    AIA has changed course on Winter Sports - Looks like tryouts and practices can start on 2 December with the season starting after 5 JAN.
     
  4. Desert Hound

    Desert Hound Well-Known Member

    Where do you see that?
     
  5. Digital5

    Digital5 Active Member

    Word of mouth - email to a parent from their school district.

    I suspect this is how the word will get out today. I've seen nothing official on the AIA website. AIA will meet behind closed doors tomorrow to decide on whether HSs with club coaches as their head coach will be allowed to retain them for the season. Many schools will be in a pinch if their HS coach cannot coach.
     
  6. put me in coach

    put me in coach Active Member

    • Practice with any outside team/group, if staying within that cohort, would not require a 14-day exclusion from the high school team. This means there will only be a 14-day exclusion for the student-athletes and coaches if they compete (games, tournaments, showcases, scrimmages, etc.) with their outside team/group. It will not apply if it is practice only. This goes with the next bullet.
    • The 14-day exclusion will apply to a student-athlete or coach who is a member of a high school winter sports team and competes with an outside team/group in the same sport or different sport. For the purposes of this rule, a scrimmage would be considered a competition.
     
  7. put me in coach

    put me in coach Active Member

  8. So full contact practice is fine but one match and your excluded from joining your HS team for 14 days. I'm struggling with the logic of this unless it's meant as purely a punitive measure against the players and clubs.
     
  9. Desert Hound

    Desert Hound Well-Known Member

    That is because you are assuming the rules we have seen from various orgs and gov over the past 8 month have any logic or follow any science.
     
  10. Digital5

    Digital5 Active Member

    Yes, the Rona attacks the logic center of the brain.
     
  11. Thanks guys. You helped me figure out I got the Rona quicker than the test.

    Since the HS season wont officially start until after Surf Cup concludes... It does appear older players can participate in Surf Cup and HS if they choose. Or did I read that wrong on account of my recent affliction.
     
  12. FutbolFan

    FutbolFan Member

    Not exactly.

    If HS players play Surf Cup (or HS coaches coach at Surf Cup), they will then have to quarantine for 14 days after their last game BEFORE they can participate in high school. It's almost as if they want to penalize players/coaches who participate in outside competitions....
     
  13. GKeeper

    GKeeper Member

    AIA rarely provides anything logical or timely

    Clubs and HS soccer do not get along, in fact it is an aged old war. No one seems to know why and to me it is not logical. I would like to see how many club coaches also coach HS soccer...anyone have some data??? My bet is at least 50%.

    If that is even close, I am not sure why AIA likes to punish club soccer when their coaching staff is significant part of the punishment.
     
  14. That's what I thought initially, but after rereading the AIA clarification: A couple of statements popped out to me. Here's the entirety of the clarification as it relates to Soccer. I left the Spirit line stuff out.

    "Based on conversations and input from many of our member school athletic directors, below are some updates and clarifying statements regarding the AIA winter sports season.

    • The 14-day exclusion will apply to student-athletes and coaches once a school has begun its official practice for the official season of sport. Tryouts may only take place during the season of sport.
    • Practice with any outside team/group, if staying within that cohort, would not require a 14-day exclusion from the high school team. This means there will only be a 14-day exclusion for the student-athletes and coaches if they compete (games, tournaments, showcases, scrimmages, etc.) with their outside team/group. It will not apply if it is practice only. This goes with the next bullet.
    • The 14-day exclusion will apply to a student-athlete or coach who is a member of a high school winter sports team and competes with an outside team/group in the same sport or different sport. For the purposes of this rule, a scrimmage would be considered a competition.
    • Club youth coaches (13 and under) will not fall into the 14-day exclusion rule unless they are involved with out-of-state tournaments. It is strongly recommended that the coach wear a face covering while coaching that youth club team.
    • For the 2020-21 school year, the Non-School Participation Rule for Winter Sports will take effect on January 5, 2021. The season of competition begins January 5th for all schools in all winter sports without exception."
    So if my DD participates in Surf Cup (Jan 1-4) but has not tried out for HS which can't take place until after January 5th. She will not have been named a member of the HS team. The 14day exclusion does not apply. ?
     
  15. FutbolFan

    FutbolFan Member

    That's an interesting take.

    The question is are "The season of sport" and the "season of competition" the same thing?

    My understanding is that some schools are doing tryouts before the holidays, some starting as early as Nov 30th like Perry basketball ( https://www.cusd80.com/Domain/3264 ). How can they do this IF Jan 5th (the season of competition) is also the start of the season of sport (when tryouts can take place)?

    I'm guessing those two things are different?
     
  16. singh

    singh Active Member

    Xavier has tryouts for basketball (not sure about soccer yet, but will find out shortly) on Nov 30.

    Spoke to AIA about the transfer rule yesterday, and i can tell you they are useless....they kept saying to ask the AD at the school you want to transfer to. Im thinking "toy made the rules, why can't you comment". In any case it seems that they way they run things they don't double check anything, unless another school complains. So I guess if you wanted to risk it, you could just play and do what you want until a competing school complains (which has happened several times before)
     
  17. Digital5

    Digital5 Active Member

    No doubt that there is little love between HS and club soccer - which is a bit silly since many HS coaches are also club coaches. It's in the interest of the school to have a qualified coach for your team. After all, sports help to drive revenue for the school. Like you stated..no logic.

    The true hatred is between AAU basketball and HS Basketball. The majority of the negative articles being written are in the context of basketball. It's unfortunate that again adults are getting in the way of things.
     
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  18. whatithink

    whatithink Active Member

    If a kid plays Surf, they are out of HS for 14 days, IMV.

    I read it as follows, the season of sport is the winter season, from tryouts through completion and including the competitive season within it. HSs will have tryouts as quickly as they can to get teams selected and practice started, esp. with the holidays right before the 5th. I'd think some will practice through the holidays.

    If in doubt, call your HS coach.
     
  19. FutbolFan

    FutbolFan Member

    That's whatithink! (Couldn't resist)

    :dead:
     
  20. Digital5

    Digital5 Active Member

    Just talk to your coach at Surf Cup, figure out the plan together.
     

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