AZ Boys ECNL 2020-2021

Discussion in 'ECNL Forum' started by Sweeper, Jul 16, 2020.

  1. whatithink

    whatithink Active Member

    Rising were granted the 07 & 08 age groups in DA before it folded. Like the other DA clubs, they ran ID dates and scouted/recruited and offered spots for this season (during last season), no different to what RSL & DelSol did.
     
  2. SoccerDadAZ

    SoccerDadAZ Active Member

    Just to clarify, Rising was granted DA status for their 07 and 08 age groups only in March 2020, well after Del Sol and RSL-AZ had already formed their 06 and 07 DA teams and had played DA matches and tournaments from Fall 2019 to March 2020. Top 08 players had already begun heading over to Del Sol and RSL-AZ in the spring/fall 2019 with the hope of playing up on those 07 DA teams, which a quite a few did.

    While PRFC started recruiting players for their 07 and 08 DA teams' rosters after being granted DA status in March, those teams never played a DA match due to cancellation of the DA schedules in March and subsequent folding of DA in April.
     
  3. AZsoccefan

    AZsoccefan Active Member

    I'm pretty sure that Rising knew they were getting DA for Fall 2020 as early as last Fall and started recruiting in kind during the early winter (November/December) timeframe for it. Perhaps others can weigh in
     
  4. SoccerDadAZ

    SoccerDadAZ Active Member

    Anyone who said they were going to receive DA Status the year prior to when they received it are lying.
     
  5. AZsoccefan

    AZsoccefan Active Member

    But yet they did get DA status......So either Rising knew more than you and me about their acceptance into DA and were doing their due diligence to prep 9 months prior to the first season.....or they bluffed a bunch of kids/parents last Winter and ended up making out in the end anyway.

    Why does it matter? Was there some arcane Youth Soccer rule that you can't recruit players until you formally announce DA status?
     
  6. SoccerDadAZ

    SoccerDadAZ Active Member

    No, Rising did not know. They had discussions with US Soccer, just like every other club who applied for DA membership, but no one knew of their final decision. Good clubs do a great job in marketing its future aspirations and goals.

    ASA restricts player movement between member clubs and registered players of other member clubs per ASA Policy 5171, with DA clubs being the exception. So if Rising were holding tryouts and practices with registered players of other clubs prior to attaining DA status then they ran afoul of ASA bylaws.

    I personally don't much care for the recruiting rules placed by ASA. Good clubs should never be concerned about other clubs trying to poach their players. If there's a better fit for a player at another club, then ASA and its clubs shouldn't place unnecessary barriers to have said player be in the best situation. Rules should be in place to ensure the integrity and viability of the clubs but ultimately, ASA and the clubs serve the kids.
     
  7. whatithink

    whatithink Active Member

    Genuine question, with DA gone are the current letter leagues covered by ASAs rule? I never understood how ECNL was covered (but DA was not) or was that an honor system?

    Will the MLS Next & GAL (& DPL) programs be able to run ID dates & offer spots outside of the tryout cycle?
     
  8. AZsoccefan

    AZsoccefan Active Member

    Just so we're clear, nobody said Rising was holding tryouts and/or practices for DA last fall or winter. They were scouting '08 players within State League in late 2019 and from what I've heard extending offers to some of their targeted players for the DA 2020 fall season.
     
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  9. SoccerDadAZ

    SoccerDadAZ Active Member

    DA was run directly by US Soccer and they superseded any bylaws, rules, placed by its member organizations like USYS, US Club Soccer. Clubs that have an affiliation with ECNL (under the US Club Soccer organization) still have to follow rules created by ASA (under USYS) as long as they maintain teams in ASA leagues (APL, ASL, and Open League).

    Since MLS Next and GAL are not run directly by US Soccer, those clubs with MLS Next/GAL affiliation still must adhere to the bylaws and guidelines of the organizations of which they are members.
     

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